After my post on this iss
ue on my blog, one of the blogger friend suggested to put the same information in English, for those readers who might not be well versed with devnagri script.It has been hundred of thousands of years when the great vedas and holy books pertaining to Hindu mythology were written. They have prevailing since or even before mankind. There has been huge transformation from the initial couplets which were been written on dry leaves, to the one being hand written on paper followed by printing on mass printing machines and now available on the internet. During this transformation there are ought to be changes in the original scripts, even though the essence might remain same in most cases. One of the reason for change can be attributed to people who claim to be intelligent enough distorted the facts for their own name, fame etc, or it can be due to mistakes which in modern era are termed as typographic error. So what we read is certainly not precisely word to word same what might have been written by those great sages. As we all know, at times one blank space here and there can distort the whole meaning what the writer wants to convey. And I believe that these are probably are the principal cause for such confusions prevailing today.
Birth of Lord Ram :
As per Valmiki and Tulsi Ramayan, Lord Ram was born on the ninth day of "Chaitra Shukl Paksha". Computer calculation reveals this date to be February 21, 5115 BC. Hence the birth of Lord Rama took place around 7125 years ago.
The Legend of Vishwamitra :
At the tender age of 16 he followed Sage Vishwamitra to fight with demons who used to create hurdles to hermit during his religious orison and sermons. This is well documented in Valmiki Ramayan following couplet.
उनषोडशवर्षो में रामो राजीवलोचन: न युद्धयोग्य्तामास्य पश्यामि सह राक्षसौ॥ (वाल्मीक रामायण /बालकाण्ड /सर्ग २० शलोक २)
Here King Dashrath, father of Lord Ram, is telling the hermit that Ram is only 16 and how can you expect him to fight with such demons।
After leaving with Vishwamitra and cleansing the evils, Lord followed him to Janakpuri where he eventually married Jaanki or Maa Sita.
There are only a few couplets in Valmiki Ramayan which describes something about the age of Mother Sita. These are
उषित्वा द्वा दश समाः इक्ष्वाकुणाम निवेशने | भुंजाना मानुषान भोगत सेव काम समृद्धिनी || ३-४७-४ ||
मम भर्ता महातेजा वयसा पंच विंशक ||३-४७-१० ब ||
अष्टा दश हि वर्षिणी नान जन्मनि गण्यते ||३-४७-११ अ ||
Here, in the first couplet, mother Sita is saving to Ravan, that she had been in Ikshwaku dynasty of King Dashrath for two years and got all the materialistic pleasure available for human kind.
Here, in the first couplet, mother Sita is saving to Ravan, that she had been in Ikshwaku dynasty of King Dashrath for two years and got all the materialistic pleasure available for human kind.
In the next one she says that when Lord Ram left for exile, his age was 25 years. And finally she iterate that she was 18 years at that time.
This concludes that Mother Sita left for exile with Lord Ram at the age of 18 and before that she was in Ayodhya for around 2 years meaning she was married somewhere at the age of 16.
The reason for confusion is that the word द्वा दश (Dwa Dash) is understood as one word by many scholars. If we read द्वादश (dwadash) as one word it becomes twelve. However if द्वा दश (Dwa dash) is read separately it conveys two years at King Dashrath place. Dwa is two and Dash represents Dashrath.
Hindi has got this peculiar advantage that if we shift the space just by one word the meaning of whole sentence changes. Say for example one want to say that "उस समय छोटे बच्चो को कमरे में बंद रखा जाता था" (Us samay chote baccho ko kamre mein band rkha jaata tha). This means that at that time kids were kept close in the room. However now if we shift the space by just one word बंद रखा (band rkha) becomes बंदर खा (bandar kha) and the sentence now becomes "उस समय छोटे बच्चो को कमरे में बंदर खा जाता था" Now this sentence means "That time smaill kids were eaten by monkey in the room".
So "band rkha" and "bandar kha" can change the whole essence of the sentence similar is the case with Dwa-dash and Dwadash here.
Tulsidaasji in Raamcharitmanas has also mentioned mother Sita was a teen rather than a kid. In Pushpwatika episode babaji has written "संग सखीं सब सुभग सयानीं। गावहिं गीत मनोहर बानीं॥" (Sang Sakhi sab subhag sayani, gawahi geet manohar vaani). Sayani in hindi refers to mature adult and not to kids.
So with all these in mind it is clear that due to lack of our understanding such things do arise which only reflects our handicap in understanding things with reference to context.
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Thats gr8 Bhavesh ji, These mentally underdeveloped parasites religious muslims and christians should be given befitting reply in this way.
What's your thought then of Sunder Kand (33/17&18)
Not only Seeta tell Hanuman Dwadash samaa again.
In 18th shlok she ALSO says 'Tatr Trayodashe Varshe'
They had to leave for Vanvas.
How would we explain This now?
I think we are confusing two different issues altogether. Shri Ram and Sitaji had what we would call a "child marriage"---viz BOTH of them were children at time of marriage. This was common in India even till the 20th century. Ex: Shivaji and his first wife Saibai were also married as children. In a child marriage, both children live together as close friends till they reach puberty. The marriage itself is not consummated till then. That was the tradition of the time.
This is completely different from the case of Mohammed (the founder of Islam). He was 50 when he married Aisha who was 6. Further, the marriage was consummated when Aisha was 9, and Mohammed was 53/54. That is called paedophilia, when a grown man has physical relations with a below-puberty girl.
We should not confuse two very different issues. Lord Ram and Sitaji were married as children, just like most people used to be in India a few generations back.
There are good movies made on this topic also: see Balika Vadhu for example, that explains this style of marriage. The couple lives in one house, as best friends. They grow emotionally close. Later, when they both reach puberty, they realize that there is also a physical aspect to marriage. But both are roughly same age (with boy being slightly older). That's completely different from case of Mohammed---an old man who had sexual relations with a little girl. Please do not confuse these two issues.
You do not have any idea about what paedophilia is. It is disorder, where a man clings sexual attraction randomly to little girls and molest them or rape them, Prophet Muhammad (S.) did neither to Aisha. He married her. And didn't abuse her like krishna did to rukhmani when she was little. Aysha (R) was very happy with prophet Muhammad.
Thank you so much... all this time I was looking at the other websites and was shocked.. even I very much know sanskrit and what you have explained cannot have any controversies... great job.
Usitva means after leaving home that is Mayaka of Mother sita.so at the time of leaving home mother sita was just 18 years and her husband was completed 25 years.
This is false. you are changing the rules of sandhi vich-chhed here. dwa dash does means twelve, whether it is 2 words aor a single word.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/rama/ry245.htm
They are changing the rules you ediot! Rather trying to find some solace by giving a fabricated interpertation .after all its all about the pride of the the GREAT GREAT dharma.����
Hello author!why are putting stress on ur brain musscles when you are not capable of proving something with logic and in a ratinal manner?
On one hand you say that seeta herself told rawana that she and rama stayed for two yrs after getting married to each other and then left for exile and at that tym i.e age of rama while leaving for exile was 25, while on the other hand you conclude that at the tym of marriage rama was 18 and seeta 16 .. haa ha. Haa.. how could rama be 25 while living for exile when he was just 18 at the tym of marriage and stayed just for two yrs in ayodhya after marriage ?? O maha pandit ji maha gyani ji snskrit k gyata ji .. rama must be 20 at the tym he left for exile.. 18marriage+2yrs in ayodhya palace =20..
By hook or by crook ,, you will prove the things the way you want. Pick something that suits the best from valmuki's and something suitable from tulsidas's and twist the facts..greattttt!!!!! Yup! द्वादश(द्वा दश)... bravo! Keep it up👌👌😘😘😘
Ever been in science classes? What is pedhophilia and its signs and symptoms? First learn properly, be prepaired and call me to debate ..
Child marriage never existed in Ancient India. Minimum age for marriage (for girls) used to be 16 while for boys it was 19-21. The concept of child marriage came after the Islamic rule in India. Remember how Muhammad married a 9-year old Ayesha?
How many places is Dahratha called Dash!!!! The fact remains that Sita was put to auction when she was 6, and that is when Raam got hold of her....
The hadith of Ayesha is itself doubtful... but you have never heard about it... https://www.dawn.com/news/696084
It is more appropriate Sitaji was 16 year at the time of marriage. Ramcharit manas says sayani matchoure girl with their sakhi was gone to vatika for Gauri pujan. Then Sitaji stayed at ayodhya 2 years. She was gone to bakwas at age of 18 years.
Agree with you. No child marriage issues.
Aye Hello! First educate yourself before any comment. Sita was 7 yrs old when married to Ram. According to old Ramayan Ram was 14 yrs old when he married. And Ram was 7 yrs older than Sita. With reference to scholars such as Umar Ahmed Usmani, Hakim Niaz Ahmed and Habibur Rehman Kandhulvi, I would like to present some arguments in favor of the fact that Aisha رضي الله عنها was at least 18 years old when her marriage was performed and at least 21 when she moved into the Prophet's house to live with him.
child marriage was brought by muslims in india.
there is no recorf of child marriage in ancient india before islam arrival.
akal ke andhe achhi tarah se fir se padh unke post .
he told when ram left ayodhya with vishwamitra ramaya was 16years . they spent few years in forest cleansing the rakshasa for few years till the yagna is completed.
he didnot say about rama age at the time of marriege. he only told sita age at the time of marrieg was around 16and when she left for banwash she was 18.
becouse he mentioned that she only lived 2years before exile in ayodhya.
from this we can calculate rama age at the time of his marriage.
rama was 16 left with vishwamitra. he spent around 6-7 years protecting rishis from demons for completion of yagya. by the time his age was around 22-23.then he left for exile at 25
And also, all the literature has been modified while printing. Maha pandit ji has read the original one written on dry leaves.
Mohammed (the founder of Islam). He was 50 when he married Aisha who was 6. Further, the marriage was consummated when Aisha was 9, and Mohammed was 53/54. That is called paedophilia, when a grown man has physical relations with a below-puberty girl.
Why nuslims are so ignorant u can't digest the truth. Where is proof that sita was 7 yrs old ram was 14 at the time of marriage. We already Givens you our proof.
Brother marriage is not paedophile..
.in hindi religion child marriage was common...n rama was mature when he married sita..he was 24 hear old..means he had sex with 6 year old sita.....that's is pedophilia...
N search niyog who was the father of .......
U r ignorant pedophilia means with sex with a minor....n ayesha ra was a mature...she had puberty after that prophet consumed the marriage..but rama sita was immature just 6 year old n 6 year old girl never have puberty of menopause...means who is pedophilia now������������
Hold your horses.. nothing wrong in ramayan,we should go with the slokas which are present in ramayan, dwa das or dwadas both mean 12 year.So at time of marriage lord ram was 13 and maa sita was 6 year old.It was a child marriage which was a common thing for that time.As it is also mentioned that Ram was not 16 when he was asked by wiswamitra to dashrath,so it was certain that ram was around 13 that time, that is why ssrath was so worried.After marriage of ram and sita they live together as friend for 12 year in ayodhya.That is why dasrath wait till now to make ram king of ayodhya.As ram was in his teen age.
When was the quoran written? At the time of Mohammed when he was alive or after the death of Mohammed?
What is the computer calculated birth date of Devi Sita if the ‘Shukla Paksha’ (the waxing phase of moon) ‘Navami’ (9th day) tithi in the lunar month of ‘Vaishaka’ is her birth date as per the Hindu calendar?
According to text by Walt Mickey
Sita was illegal daughter of King Dashrath
after birth she was abandoned and King Janaka adopted her
and in ignorance married her to his own brother Ram
Sita was 3 and Ram was 17 at time of marriage
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Dear, Muslims have no problem with other religions. It is better you give advice to Hindu Zealots who desecrate Islam all the time because they majority in India.
There thousands of ancient Hindu texts which put the age of Sita at five and Ram's at 25. But the problems are zealot Hindus who abuse us Muslims and then get abused.
We are strictly prohibited in Quran not to insult the gods of other religions.
People like you are trouble makers. You are defending Ram who married 5-year-old Sita at the age of 25. An article cannot change hundreds of ancient Hindu texts.
Let me explain you Muhammad's marriage with Mata Aysha. The story is based on only one narration which was recorded by Bukhari, who is considered great scholar in Islam.
It is habbit of old people in Arab that that they intermingle words. Bukhari was Uzbek and Arabic was not his mother tongue. He asked the old Arab man about the age of Mata Aysha at the time of marriage. The old man said tisa-tash means 19. He again asked the old man kept half of the words in his mouth saying tisa_aadh. Bukhari wrote what he understood. Later, the scholars put her age between 22-27. She was born in Makkah and not in Medina which is the great evidence that she was an adult.
Let me tell you another thing about Islam. Islam is based on Quran and oral narrations of Sunnah. Sunnah means the daily routine of Prophet Muhammad PBUH. At least 300 years later, zealot Muslim scholars wrote several books on the routine work of Muhammad PBUH which are mostly pack of lies. The Islam of today is not Islam of Prophet Muhammad PBUH, but based on the understanding of Muslim scholars. It is not Islam but Mullaism.
Don't throw stone on others when you are sitting in glass room.
Now you put blame on Islam. You defend Ram's marriage with 5-year-old Sita at the age of 25, Mata Aysha's age was between 22-27 at the time of marriage. It is historically proved. It was an adult marriage and not child marriage.
Can you explain how Kusha was born? That's why I say 'Don't throw stones on the others when you are sitting in a glass house.
Exactly. Thousands of ahadith written by zealot scholars are pack of lies. The ahadith converted Islam into Mullaism.
Another hadith that Prophet Muhammad PBUH told some people to drink camel urine for diarrhea is also a pack of lies. The Prophet who always insists on cleaness how can he suggest camel urine as a medicine? The zealots changed the shape of Islam.
तेरी माँ की चूत हरामी।बात राम और सीता की हो रही तू हमारे पैग़म्बर को बीच में ले आया. कुश घास से केसे पैदा हुआ यह बता.
Mata Aysha was 22 when she married while Ram married 5-year-old Sita at the age of 25. Ram was actually pedophile.
Child marriage is not bad in itself if its between two children ... when the actual consummation of marriage is to take place when the two become adults. its only that in the current society this is held to be wrong. The concept of marriage changes shape in each age. Therefore, we cannot judge the marriage between two children -- Ram and Sita in the Treta Yuga as wrong.
Of course, there is no proof that they consummated their marriage before they attained adulthood although, Sita was brought to Ayodhya.Different eras have had different rules about 'bidai' and 'gauna.'
Marrying an adult to a child is however a different matter altogether, especially, if the child is pre-puberty. This, as well as having sex with a pre-pubescent child is indeed evil in any age. This is not dependant on place or time. This is what Paedophilia is all about.
Lol u can't name an actual verse where it tells Sita's real age but I can clearly state al Bukhari and sahil bukhari verses where Ayesha's age was mentioned as 6 year old. Muhhamad was a well known childrapist pedophile plus he married his own laughter and law Zainab. Plus islamic scriptures clearly approve sex with animals no wonder why people around the world called muhhamad a goathumper. Muhhamad used to have sexual relations with goats and camels plus he created a fake allah and told people how there is a red light in the sky where a pimp named allah offers 72 prostitudes. Muhhamad was an illiterate merchant who was so useless that he couldn't achieve a life of his own and was completely dependent on his wife khadija's property
Lol muhhamad was a war lord 😂 and muslims are buch of intolerant puzzies that's why they start beheading people as soon as someone draws muhhamad. Muhhamad and islam is so weak that it gets insecure by a drawing 🤣 that's how weak islam is. Allah is nothing more than a pig people make pork out of 🤭 muhhamad pig pork thusalam and allah-nalla is a pimp who offers 72 prostitudes including fatima,ayesha and Zainab
Total lies.
There is no temple that puts age of Sita Mata at 5 and Lord Ram at 25. You would not be able to give any proper source of that slander. However, there are numerous Hadees in the most trusted of Hadees books - Sahi Bukhari - where Aisha herself narrates that she was 9 when 54 year old Muhammad consummated the marriage.
Muslims constantly attack Hindi faith directly when they have the upper hand. And in covert manners when Muslims are weak. Qur'an never says not to insult the deities of other religions indefinitely. It is a Medina verse which was later abrogated by Meccan verses. Even in the Medina verse, it says not to attack the beliefs of others because other's can attack yours too. So it not in nobility that you refrain from attack, but fear.
And your Zakir Naik has exposed Islam and attacked other faiths enough. Now there is no hiding and turning back. The Djinn is out of the bottle.
Enjoy the discourse.
These bigoted peacefuls are so bad at arguments.. which hindu texts mention that shri krishna abused maa rukmini?none at all! And even if we go by these 'mistranslated' verses..Lord Ram's age at the time of their marriage was 13 and Mata Sita's was 6.. there is literally no hindu scripture which says otherwise..and even this will only be called as child marriage.. not pedophilia! There is no mention of consummation at all! Unlike the prophet ,a man in hid 50s who marries a 6 year old girl and then has sex with her at at age of 9..which is mentioned explicitly in their own scripture(sahih al-bukhari 5134)..in what world does a 9 year old knows about consent? Which normal man in his 50s would have sex with a 9 year old child? No one unless he is a pedophile..I know it is hard for u bigots to digest/accept, even your own clerics/scholars have never refuted this.
In the Vulgate [1] edition, when Ravana appears before Sita in the guise of a saint, she entails the details of her family background.
She mentions that after her marriage with Rama, she stayed in Ayodhya for 12 years.
उषित्वा द्वा दश समाः इक्ष्वाकूणाम् निवेशने |
भुंजाना मानुषान् भोगान् सर्व काम समृद्धिनी || ३-४७-४
𝑑𝑣𝑎𝑎 𝑑𝑎𝑠ℎ𝑎 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑎𝑎𝐻 means two & ten [twelve] years.
Sita says: "On residing in the residence of Ikshvaku-s in Ayodhya for twelve years, I was in sumptuosity of all cherishes while relishing all humanly prosperities. [3-47-4]”
Janaki also reveals that she was 18 at the time of exile while Rama was 25.
मम भर्ता महातेजा वयसा पंच विंशकः || ३-४७-१०
अष्टा दश हि वर्षाणि मम जन्मनि गण्यते |
"My great-resplendent husband was of twenty-five years of age at that time, and to me eighteen years are reckoned up from my birth. [3-47-10b, 11a]”
Sita also repeats the same to Hanuman in the Sundarkanda, stating that he stayed in Raghava’s house for a period of 12 years.
समा द्वादश तत्र अहम् राघवस्य निवेशने || ५-३३-१७
भुन्जाना मानुषान् भोगान् सर्व काम समृद्धिनी |
"I stayed in Rama's house there for twelve years, enjoying the worldly pleasures belonging to humankind and fulfilling all my desires."
On this basis, a simple conclusion has been drawn by popular Bengali authors like Rajsekhar Basu and Upendranth Mukherjee et al [2]. Both of them (and many others) have suggested in their footnotes that Sita was married to Rama when she was only six years of age.
Your article is wrong as you've translated dwadash which means 12 as 2. Let me clarify everything here.
Dvija is the second birth of a person in hinduism which he gets through knowledge (often called as spiritual birth). Bhagwan Rama was 13-14 according to his dvija which he took in 11 years of physical age. Physically, he was 24-25. Similarly, Mata Sita was 6 according to her dvija and as she also took that in 11, she was 17-18 as of her physical age. These ignorant bigots who say that sita was a child don't even have enough intellect to understand sanatani concepts. So all they do is misinterpreting our texts to defend the pathetic nature of their own religion where a 54 year old man rapes a 9 year old girl who used to play with doll (as she herself said in one of their text). They can't justify this as this is truth. And when their scholars like Zakir Naik say the same thing, everything's good but if anyone out of their religion says the sams, these terrorists get offended.These kinds of people are threat to humanity and hopefully people realise this fact soon.
Well maybe you have no problem with Hindus, but if you come out of your cave then you'll know how Muslims are acting towards Hindus and their traditions. Thye keep troubling Hindus whenever they want. I hope they also read the same Qur'an that you read. Then what do you think that influence them when they do attacks on Hindus and insult Hindu Gods?
Adnan, according to text by George the 3rd , aisha was born to a whore which Muhammad fell for. Later when he came to know that she had aids due to Muhammad, he planned to marry her and infact her at 9.trying to justify a pedophile rapist won't change anything.
Very good question. This data should solve the problem of her date of birth atleast astronomicall.
According to history the sister of mother Aaishah (ra) her sister Asma (ra) was older than Aaishah ten years. The age of Asma (ra) at the time of first Hijri 27 years. So according to this perfect history the age of Mother Aaishah was 17 years at the time of Hijrah. She was married in 2 Hijri. So her age was 19 years.
The of عشرۂ ten missed in printing in beginning. So it was ستۃ عشرۃ 16 and تسعۃ عشرۃ 19 .
According to history also it is right. The missing of a word in printing, it is possible as you see in news papers too.
Please translate this research in English as it is said in it.
ہماری تحقیق یہ ہے کہ سیدہ عائشہ صدیقہ رضی اللہ عنہا کی عمر مبارک شادی کے وقت کم سے کم 17 یا 19 سال تھی۔
دلائل: حضرت عائشہ صدیقہ رضی اللہ عنہا کی بڑی بہن سیدہ اسماء بنت ابی بکر رضی اللہ عنہا طویل العمر صحابیات میں سے ہیں۔ عبداللہ بن زبیر رضی اللہ عنہ کی والدہ محترمہ ہیں۔ بڑی خدا رسیدہ عبادت گذار اور بہادر خاتون ان کی عمر تمام مورخین نے سو سال لکھی ہے۔ سیدہ عائشہ صدیقہ رضی اللہ عنہا ان سے دس سال چھوٹی ہیں۔ سیدہ اسماء حضرت عبداللہ بن زبیر کی شہادت کے پانچ یا دس دن بعد فوت ہوئیں۔ سن وفات 73ھ ہے۔ اس حساب سے سیدہ اسماء کی عمر ہجرت کے وقت 27 سال ہوئی اور سیدہ عائشہ صدیقہ رضی اللہ عنہا ان سے دس سال چھوٹی ہیں تو آپ کی عمر ہجرت کے وقت 17 سال ہوئی۔ اگر سیدہ عائشہ صدیقہ رضی اللہ عنہا کی رخصتی 2ھ کو مانی جائے تو رخصتی کے وقت آپ کی عمر مبارک 19 سال ہوئی۔ حوالہ جات ملاحظہ ہوں۔
اسلمت اسماء قديما وهم بمکة فی اول الاسلام... وهی آخر المهاجرين والمهاجرات موتا. وکانت هی اکبر من اختها عائشة بعشر سنين.. بلغت من العمر ماته سنة.
اسماء مکہ میں اوائل اسلام میں مسلمان ہوئیں۔ مہاجرین مردوں عورتوں میں سب سے آخر فوت ہونے والی ہیں۔ اپنی بہن سیدہ عائشہ رضی اللہ عنہا سے دس سال بڑی تھیں‘‘۔
(ابن کثير، البدايه والنهايه 8 / 346 طبع بيروت)
اسلمت قديما بعد اسلام سبعة عشر انسانا... ماتت بمکة بعد قتله بعشره ايام وقيل بعشرين يوماً وذلک فی جمادی الاولیٰ سنة ثلاث وسبعين.
مکہ معظمہ میں سترہ آدمیوں کے بعد ابتدائی دور میں مسلمان ہوئیں۔۔۔ اور مکہ مکرمہ میں اپنے بیٹے (عبداللہ بن زبیر رضی اللہ عنہ ) کی شہادت کے دس یا بیس دن بعد فوت ہوئیں اور یہ واقع ماہ جمادی الاولیٰ سن 73ھ کا ہے‘‘
(علامه ابن حجر عسقلانی، تهذيب التهذيب 12 ص 426 طبع لاهور، الامام ابوجعفر محمد بن حرير طبری، تاريخ الامم والملوک ج 5 ص 31 طبع بيروت، حافظ ابونعيم احمد بن عبدالله الاصبهانی م 430ه، حلية الولياء وطبقات الاصفياء 2 ص 56 طبع بيروت)
اسلمت قديما بمکة وبايعت رسول الله صلی الله عليه وآله وسلم.. ماتت اسماء بنت ابی بکرالصديق بعد قتل ابنها عبدالله بن الزبير وکان قتله يوم الثلثاء لسبع عشرة ليلة خلت من جمادی الاولیٰ سنة ثلاث وسبعين.
’’سیدہ اسماء بنت ابوبکر صدیق رضی اللہ عنہ مکہ معظمہ میں قدیم الاسلام ہیں۔ آپ نے رسول اللہA کی بیعت کی۔ اپنے بیٹے عبداللہ بن زبیر کی شہادت کے چند دن بعد فوت ہوئیں۔ عبداللہ بن زبیر رضی اللہ عنہ کی شہادت بروز منگل 12 جمادی الاولیٰ 73ھ کو ہوئی ہے‘‘۔
(محمد ابن سود الکاتب الواقدی 168ه م 230ه الطبقات الکبریٰ ج 8 / 255 طبع بيروت)
کانت اسن من عائشة وهی اختها من ابيها.. ولدت قبل التاريخ لسبع وعشرين سنة.
’’سیدہ اسمائ، سیدہ عائشہ رضی اللہ عنہا سے زیادہ عمر کی تھیں۔ باپ کی طرف سے سگی بہن تھیں۔ ہجرت سے 27 سال قبل پیدا ہوئیں‘‘۔
(امام ابن الجوزی، اسدالغايه فی معرفة الصحابة ج 5 ص 392 طبع رياض)
اسلمت قديما بمکة قال ابن اسحق بعد سبعة عشر نفسا.. بلغت اسماء مائة سنة ولدت قبل الهجرة لسبع وعشرين سنة.
سیدہ اسماء رضی اللہ عنہا مکہ مکرمہ میں ابتدائً مسلمان ہوئیں۔ ابن اسحاق نے کہا سترہ انسانوں کے بعد سو سال عمر پائی ہجرت سے 27 سال پہلے پیدا ہوئیں‘‘۔
(شهاب الدين ابوالفضل احمد بن علی بن حجر عسقلانی، الاصابة فی تميز الصحابة 4 ص 230 م 773ه طبع بيروت، سيرة ابن هشام م 1 ص 271 طبع بيروت، علامه ابن الاثير، الکامل فی التاريخ 4، ص 358 طبع بيروت، علامه ابوعمر يوسف ابن عبدالله بن محمد بن عبدالقرطبی 363ه، الاستيعاب فی اسماء الاصحاب علی هامش الاصابة 463ه ج 4 ص 232 طبع بيروت، حافظ شمس الدين محمد بن احمد الذهبی، تاريخ الاسلام ودفيات المشاهير والاسلام ج 5 ص 30 طبع بيروت، الروض الانف شرح سيرة ابن هشام ج 1 ص 166 طبع ملتان)
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واللہ و رسولہ اعلم بالصواب۔
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Dashrath itself means lord of 10 sides. None of the jihadis are able to prove 25 year old Rama married 6 year old Sita.
Can you prove any of your claim against Rama? We can prove against Muhammad.
Walt Mickey wrote Ramayana or Valmiki? Literally Ma Sita herself says she is 18 and her husband is 25 at the time of their exile.
Changing rules? Ma Sita herself tes she was 18 and Rama was 25 during exile which means she was 6-7 and Rama was 12-13 during their marriage. Yup Dharma is great, islam is 💩
That doesn't even make sense. What? Lund namazi. Basic Crux is even Ramayana tells Ma Sita was 18 and Lord Rama was 25 during exile so it means he was at most 13 during marriage. It was child marriage not p*dophilia
Bro are you mad aur what shri ram left ayodha when he was 16 with laxman and vishwamitra then how he married at age of 13 and sita was well educated women so she goes to gurukul and she goes gurukul at 11 and did her upnayan sanskaar and for source her teacher name was gargi she stayed in gurukul ashram for 4-5 years and after that she married ram and it is mention in valmiki ramayan the real ramyan that sita stayed 2 yr in ayodhya after marriage then she leaved with ram okay and u forgot about diwvja which means after upanayan sankar the student get new age start from 1 so whe she said that my husband was 25 means 25 years after upanayan sankar and she was 18 means after upanayan sankar and they did upanyaskaar at age of 11 so add 25+11=36 , 18+11=29 and the age difference between rama and sita is correct 6 years ok bro go and read ramayan first and this child marriage thing is only existed in Arbhamic religion okay so don't spread false news
Yah yah and ayesha was illegal daughter of mohammad which later he married and u are illegal son ok halala process cuz your mother was fucked by 10000000 muslim then u born from ur mother big hole created ny halal right this was also written by your illegitimate dad walt mickey and for your kind information walt mickey is not writer of ramayan valmiki is real writtor of ramayan where he mention that sita herself said that she was 17 years old and rama was 24-25 years old at time of marriage understood son of bastard bitch
Then proof it butch that your paigambar mohammad wass Incconet he never rapes ayesha but u can't proof it cuz there no where written that he was good and Incconet actually he rapes ayesha, fatima and many girls and he married poor ayesha whem she was 6 and fucked her when she was 9 is you bastard prophet was even Human he also fucked his mother and sisters 💀
How she was sixed tell me heein in valmiki ramyan she herself said that she stayed in ayodhya for 2 yrs
Bro are you mad aur what shri ram left ayodha when he was 16 with laxman and vishwamitra then how he married at age of 13 and sita was well educated women so she goes to gurukul and she goes gurukul at 11 and did her upnayan sanskaar and for source her teacher name was gargi she stayed in gurukul ashram for 4-5 years and after that she married ram and it is mention in valmiki ramayan the real ramyan that sita stayed 2 yr in ayodhya after marriage then she leaved with ram okay and u forgot about diwvja which means after upanayan sankar the student get new age start from 1 so whe she said that my husband was 25 means 25 years after upanayan sankar and she was 18 means after upanayan sankar and they did upanyaskaar at age of 11 so add 25+11=36 , 18+11=29 and the age difference between rama and sita is correct 6 years ok bro go and read ramayan first and this child marriage thing is only existed in Arbhamic religion okay so don't spread false news
What was the age of Rama and Sita when they got married?
User-11609892196445430427 behena had asked me to write an answer to this long time back. There is a lot of inconsistency regarding the age of Bhagwan Sri Ram and Mata Sita when they got married in Valmiki Ramayana.
I had a long talk with Bhanu Kiran bhaiya regarding this and we did’nt reach any good conclusion.
I will be using online Valmiki Ramayana and Ramayana CE to answer this. At last I will be tagging some people who I think may give a better insight to this issue.
Mata Sita’s statements to that rapist Ravana in Online Valmiki Ramayana
On residing in the residence of Ikshvaku-s in Ayodhya for twelve years, I was in sumptuosity of all cherishes while relishing all humanly prosperities.
In the thirteenth year the lordly king Dasharatha deliberated together with his imperial ministers to anoint Rama as Crown Prince of Ayodhya.
My great-resplendent husband was of twenty-five years of age at that time, and to me eighteen years are reckoned up from my birth
Source : Valmiki Ramayana Aranya Kanda
So if we go by this we get :
Mata Sita’s age as 18–12= 6 years
Bhagwan Sri Ram’s age as 25–12= 13 years
This seems bogus. CE has changed this to 1 year.
This is what Mata Sita told Ravana according to CE :
I am the daughter of the great-souled Janaka of Mithila. O fortunate one! O supreme among brahmanas! My name is Sita and I am Rama’s wife.
I spent one year in Raghava’s residence.I enjoyed all the desired objects of prosperity and everything that humans crave after.
After one year was over, the king consulted an assembly of his ministers and honoured my husband, Rama, by deciding to instate him as the heir apparent. Arrangements were being made for Raghava’s consecration.
My immensely energetic husband was twenty-five years old
then. Rama is famous in the worlds.
Source : Baroda CE Valmiki Ramayana Aranya Kanda translated by Bibek Debroy.
If we go by this, then Bhagwan Sri Ram was 24 years old, but CE has removed the verse which says Mata Sita was 18 at the time of the exile. If CE had included that, she would have been 17. This is the reason CE gives for removing :
Across different versions of the Ramayana and even across different versions of the Valmiki Ramayana, this inconsistency in Rama’s age is
impossible to reconcile. The Critical Edition excises a shloka where Sita
says she was eighteen at the time.
Source : Baroda CE Valmiki Ramayana Aranya Kanda translated by Bibek Debroy.
So according to CE, age of Bhagwan Sri Ram was 24 at the time of their marriage, while CE does’nt say anything about Mata Sita’s age.
But again even this looks incorrect to me because of this statement of King Dasaratha :
""Less than sixteen years of age is my lotus-eyed Rama, and I see no warring aptitude to him with the demons
Source : Valmiki Ramayana Bala Kanda
Same thing from CE :
Having regained his senses, he said, ‘My lotus-eyed Rama is still less than sixteen years of age.
Source : Baroda CE Vakmiki Ramayana translated by Bibek Debroy.
So if we go by this , then Bhagwan Sri Ram and Lakshman ji were away from Ayodhya for at least 9 years. Which means killing Tataka, protection of Maharishi Vishwamitra’s rituals, journey to Mithila , breaking of Shiv Dhanush , marriage and then journey back to Ayodhya took 9 years.
It is difficult to believe that King Dasaratha managed to stay away from Bhagwan Sri Ram for 9 long years because as he could’nt bear the sorrow when he had to exile Bhagwan Sri Ram for 14 years and even gave up his life in sorrow. So its impossible to think that he had managed to stay away from him for 9 years.
So I did’nt find any solid evidences about their age. If we go by CE Bhagwan Sri Ram was 24 years old and we don’t find any mention of Mata Sita’s age.
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